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    Mr. Game and Watch Respect Thread

    Mr. Game & Watch doesn't really have much we can discern from the actual G&W series, but what we see in Brawl's SSE is pretty convincing. For those who didn't follow that plot, what happened was that Tabuu extracted the LCD fluid from G&W to create the Primid army. At some point late in the plot, you recruit G&W himself by rescuing him and he's absolutely 100% of what he ever was... but the Primid army still exists which incidentally is a pretty massive group of guys. This gets down to the single most broken power I think in all of fiction that G&W alone possesses. G&W can violate the law of conservation of matter and simply create additional matter from himself without limit. He uses this when fighting in Smash too; where else could you begin to explain his various tools he spawns (turtles, packages, signs for Judgment Hammer, the crew for Fire, etc.) come from? For anyone who isn't versed in physics, it might not be as obvious why this is insane, but remember that G&W has mass and that the force of gravity is proportional to how much mass is present. Since G&W can just spawn infinite amounts of mass, he could at a whim simply spawn enough material to create a universe ending black hole thanks to the extreme gravity. None of these other characters can begin to match this.


    I'd also like you to consider that G&W is truly 2d. He has absolutely no thickness at all, and yet he still is able to freely move about a 3d world. This has a lot of implications. A truly 2d object would be infinitely sharp. In combat the obvious advantage is that he could cut any material by applying almost no force; he just has to make contact to slice through anything. However, a secondary implication is that he should by logic slice through the ground and instantly sink to the center of the Earth, but clearly he does not. This suggests that G&W can arbitrarily float which I suppose explains why when he's using Fire there seems to be no conservation of momentum pushing the Fire crew downward when G&W is thrown upward (G&W can just move upward freely). Likewise G&W's plunging dair must use these properties; other characters with plunging dairs presumably make themselves more aerodynamic, but since G&W is perfectly flat, he's also always optimally aerodynamic so his ability to alter his fall speed can only be explained as a special ability to negate yet another fundamental law of physics at a whim. Broken stuff.


    Speaking of him being 2d, let's look at some other implications. As an infinitely thin object who is also absolutely pitch black. no light at all would refract off him; he would be invisible to all of the other fighters. You might consider that those with psychic powers could detect him, but how would that work? My understand of what psychic powers are supposed to be is some sort of special brain powers in which you use some sort of a wave from your brain to interface with an opponent's brain, but since brains are 3d objects, clearly G&W's mind works via completely different and not understood mechanisms so it seems more plausible than not that he would be simply immune to all of the psychics. Even if he has some strange 2d analogue to a brain, how could a normal psychic possibly be equipped to interface with it? In terms of other interactions, even if someone were directly orthogonal to him, you have to consider his thinness from another angle. Things like sound waves or the wave properties of any particle would have a wavelength infinitely larger than his absolute zero thickness. It's unclear if there's any physical mechanism initiated by a 3d object or person that could possibly even detect his presence. Exerting a force on him might also be a tricky process, but since we do see he's highly rigid, perhaps that would work a little better so long as you approached from the flat side... not that you'd ever know he was there before he destroyed you at his leisure.
    Lastly, as though he weren't already totally outclassing everyone else, consider his movement. Most other characters move by translating their location from one position to another in a smooth way, but we see very clearly that G&W simply instantaneously teleports in a sort of stuttered "frame by frame" animation. If you consider what this means on an instantaneous basis, it means that G&W can impart infinite velocity upon himself for brief periods of time. Since he possesses mass, infinite velocity means infinite momentum. Infinite momentum means infinite force. G&W can impart literally any amount of force he wants at any time; it's the only possible conclusion one can draw from his method of movement. Of course his sharp side would instantly simply slice any material even with very low force, but his flat side could likewise just break any material freely by exploiting this property. If you consider quantum mechanics, this gets even more extreme. Remember the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. The more precisely an object's speed is known, the less precisely its position is known. By imparting infinite speed upon himself, it would seem that the uncertainty of his speed goes to zero which would mean the uncertainty of his position goes to infinity which means his individual particles would simultaneously affect the entire universe at once. Unlike other things here, this isn't clear and seems like something that doesn't happen; G&W already freely breaks several fundamental laws of physics so it's possible he is able to function completely outside of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, but that is also an insane property as it would suggest that in interactions between his particles and the particles of the rest of the universe his simply impose their properties freely and completely override the properties of everything else changing the basic mechanics of the entire universe to suit his existence. The second is a plausible interpretation; presumably this is why Flat Zone flattens anyone who visits? Yeah, don't try to tell me someone like Kirby is on this level; G&W can't even merely just destroy the universe but also rewrite its laws to his own convenience...
    Last edited by Max; May 16th, 2019, 01:22 PM.
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