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    #81
    So not to be the worst element of Vs, but...

    Is there a counter to Reiatsu Crush in Warhammer 40K?

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      #82
      I still don't get this game or how it can be used in vs threads. Abilities and weaponry description are vague RPG dialogue. They "channel phsychic power to enhance their physical power through the Warp" or whatever. And I'm like "that sounds descriptive but wtf does that even mean? To what extent? Can it be quantified?"

      Are they using character stats as feats or are they using plot data entry? Because technically you can beat Registeel with a level 100 Charmander

      How could you compare the daemons that these Grey Knights defeat to Bleach characters? And how is the WH40K characters' dependence on the Warp taken into consideration in cross verse battles where the opposition has no relation to it?
      Last edited by One of Them; January 8th, 2019, 02:33 PM.

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        #83
        Originally posted by OrganizationXV View Post
        So not to be the worst element of Vs, but...

        Is there a counter to Reiatsu Crush in Warhammer 40K?
        With equalization on???

        Be a strong enough psyker to not get fucking annihilated from getting hit with that much Reishi Warp Energy.

        Grey Knights are gene-forged from from the genetic material of the God Emperor, so...




        Originally posted by One of Them View Post
        I still don't get this game or how it can be used in vs threads. Abilities and weaponry description are vague RPG dialogue.
        Same way u use any other fictional setting--feats and powerscaling from the lore. (pretty sure it was a universal rule of vs. that you don't use "game mechancics." In B4 "Pidgeot and Fearow have higher speed stats than Rayquaza")


        Theirs dozens upon dozens upon dozens of novels and lorebooks you can pull feats from--hard feats to quantify the power of psychic abilities and warp entities in 40k


        ...Magnus teleporting an entire Planet across the galaxy...

        ...the Cacodominus mind-controlling the populations of 1,200+ populated star systems

        ...Slaanesh instantly lifewiping every Eldar within a 10,000 lightyear radius from its point-of-manifestation in real space + absorbing the souls of the slain...

        ...The Emperor powering the astronomicon... (a beam of pure psychic energy that traveled 70,000 lightyears across across the galactic center, lifewiped every planet in its path, burnt continuously for several hundred years, and burnt so intensely that it was visible outside the physical universe)

        _________


        "Sight returned, banishing the grotesque feeling of helplessness. Such emotion was anathema, prickling at Argel Tal’s skin with a thousand insect legs. He managed to look through his dimmed visor, seeing a towering figure deep in a corona of agonising white light. Around the figure, cloaked and gold-armoured warriors hefted unique spears with practiced ease. Each one was the size of an Astartes, and no Astartes could fail to recognise them.

        'Custodes,’ he managed to speak through teeth gritted at the light’s intensity.

        ‘It’s…’ Xaphen stammered. ‘It’s the…’

        ‘I know who it is,’ Argel Tal exhaled the words through clenched teeth. And that’s when the voice hit him, hit them all, in a wave of invisible force.

        KNEEL it whispered with the power of a hammer to the forehead. There was no resisting. Muscles acted instantly, no matter that many hearts fought not to obey. Argel Tal was one of them. This was not fealty, nor worship, nor service. This was slavery, and his instincts rebelled at the enforced devotion even as he obeyed it.

        One hundred thousand Word Bearers kneeled in the dust of the perfect city, rendered prone by Imperial decree. A Legion was on its knees."
        (-The First Heretic-)

        ^^^
        The Emperor mind-slaving a legion of 100,000 genetically-engineered superhumans specifically designed to resist mind-slaving


        ...thats how you use this setting in vs....
        Last edited by Post-Crisis Shob; January 8th, 2019, 04:15 PM.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Post-Crisis Shob View Post

          ...unless the basis of those abilities are Warp Fuckery.

          Going with the Soul Society = A SubReality of the Warp + Shinigami are Warp Entities theory of interactivity:

          Then the whole "The very presence of Grey Knights upon the field of battle is painful to daemons and other Warp entities and makes it difficult for these entities to maintain their presence. Grey Knights advance on their targets with impunity and gain immense advantages against Chaotic opposition" rule comes into play.


          ...dat Kenpachi vs. Angron prompt though...






          Yea, for Warp Daemons. Not really sure it scales to Bleach characters

          And yea Angron would rip Kenpachi's spine out of his ass and strangle him to death with it.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Post-Crisis Shob View Post

            With equalization on???

            Be a strong enough psyker to not get fucking annihilated from getting hit with that much Reishi Warp Energy.

            Grey Knights are gene-forged from from the genetic material of the God Emperor, so...






            Same way u use any other fictional setting--feats and powerscaling from the lore. (pretty sure it was a universal rule of vs. that you don't use "game mechancics." In B4 "Pidgeot and Fearow have higher speed stats than Rayquaza")


            Theirs dozens upon dozens upon dozens of novels and lorebooks you can pull feats from--hard feats to quantify the power of psychic abilities and warp entities in 40k


            ...Magnus teleporting an entire Planet across the galaxy...

            ...the Cacodominus mind-controlling the populations of 1,200+ populated star systems

            ...Slaanesh instantly lifewiping every Eldar within a 10,000 lightyear radius from its point-of-manifestation in real space + absorbing the souls of the slain...

            ...The Emperor powering the astronomicon... (a beam of pure psychic energy that traveled 70,000 lightyears across across the galactic center, lifewiped every planet in its path, burnt continuously for several hundred years, and burnt so intensely that it was visible outside the physical universe)

            _________


            "Sight returned, banishing the grotesque feeling of helplessness. Such emotion was anathema, prickling at Argel Tal’s skin with a thousand insect legs. He managed to look through his dimmed visor, seeing a towering figure deep in a corona of agonising white light. Around the figure, cloaked and gold-armoured warriors hefted unique spears with practiced ease. Each one was the size of an Astartes, and no Astartes could fail to recognise them.

            'Custodes,’ he managed to speak through teeth gritted at the light’s intensity.

            ‘It’s…’ Xaphen stammered. ‘It’s the…’

            ‘I know who it is,’ Argel Tal exhaled the words through clenched teeth. And that’s when the voice hit him, hit them all, in a wave of invisible force.

            KNEEL it whispered with the power of a hammer to the forehead. There was no resisting. Muscles acted instantly, no matter that many hearts fought not to obey. Argel Tal was one of them. This was not fealty, nor worship, nor service. This was slavery, and his instincts rebelled at the enforced devotion even as he obeyed it.

            One hundred thousand Word Bearers kneeled in the dust of the perfect city, rendered prone by Imperial decree. A Legion was on its knees."
            (-The First Heretic-)

            ^^^
            The Emperor mind-slaving a legion of 100,000 genetically-engineered superhumans specifically designed to resist mind-slaving


            ...thats how you use this setting in vs....
            And what are the Grey Knights' feats or scaling?

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              #86
              While it would no doubt be goddamn funny if this thread managed to overtake threads discussing ongoing series, I would prefer that you gentlemen of the homosexual variety refrained from inflating the post count by talking about feats and bad video game adaptations. To quote a wise man, "You can be gay if you want. Just be straight with me."

              If you can't do that (or just don't want to), then simply let the thread die like it probably should have. Thank you for understanding. :)
              Last edited by Oneiros; January 9th, 2019, 02:29 AM.


              Rest in peace, John Dunsworth (1946-2017).

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                #87
                Wasn't there some kind of rumor a few months ago about the Bleach anime returning? What happened to that?

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Cid View Post
                  Wasn't there some kind of rumor a few months ago about the Bleach anime returning? What happened to that?
                  I think it's just hope that becomes stronger the more it's realesed of the novels and in the game. Supposedly Ichigo's new transformation(the one just released in the game) was supposed to become canon, or at the very least the concept, before the manga was cut short. There is hope that if the final arc gets animated, content from the novels and things like said transformation will be included

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                    #89
                    As far as updates(I don't remember if I've seen this posted here), Shinji's Bankai and Hisagi's Bankai have been revealed in the novels. Also Kubo's newest artbook shows a drawing of teen Kazui and Ichika(such a tease)

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                    #90
                    Oh and the Bleach animator keeps posting his own Bleach art in social media. We can assume that he'd be on board with animating the final arc

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                      #91
                      Don't know if I mentioned it here before but when asked what Ururu was it was implied by Urahara to essentially be an advanced version of what Nemu was and kept quiet at to make Mayuri think that he actually had one upped Urahara at something :P

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                        #92
                        Bleach was good at one time.

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                          #93
                          Originally posted by Alice View Post
                          Bleach was good at one time.
                          Bleach is cool, hating on it is so 2012

                          What are you some anime youtuber with a horrible eurapean accent

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                            #94
                            Burn the Witch actually takes place 12 years after the final battle and 2 year after the final chapter, Kubo said that the branch was actually mentioned in the series but he wanted it only briefly mentioned as it wasn't relevant in the plot.
                            Another Shikai ability of Shunsui

                            {t/n: 'genman' means 'linking pinky fingers together as a promise'}

                            If you lie to each other, your fingers get paralyzed on the first lie; your whole body feels like it is getting crushed by a fist on the second lie and finally, on the third lie, you feel unimaginable pain as if your viscera were being stabbed from the inside. It was a technique meant to extract information from the kind of opponent who lies during battle, but it worked on people 'other than one's own self'. This game had one single disadvantage. As long as the game is activated, the wielder is not allowed to lie.
                            Last edited by Raiden Blackthorn; January 27th, 2019, 06:25 PM.

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                              #95
                              Originally posted by Raiden Blackthorn View Post
                              Burn the Witch actually takes place 12 years after the final battle and 2 year after the final chapter, Kubo said that the branch was actually mentioned in the series but he wanted it only briefly mentioned as it wasn't relevant in the plot.
                              Another Shikai ability of Shunsui

                              {t/n: 'genman' means 'linking pinky fingers together as a promise'}

                              If you lie to each other, your fingers get paralyzed on the first lie; your whole body feels like it is getting crushed by a fist on the second lie and finally, on the third lie, you feel unimaginable pain as if your viscera were being stabbed from the inside. It was a technique meant to extract information from the kind of opponent who lies during battle, but it worked on people 'other than one's own self'. This game had one single disadvantage. As long as the game is activated, the wielder is not allowed to lie.
                              Since his Shikai simulates multiple children's games, I wonder if his Bankai can also simulate multiple plays. That Zanpakuto has way too many abilities lol

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                                #96
                                Nel took the rank of Espada 3 from Dordoni
                                Not only did Kubo make the novel canon, Kubo told Narita things that couldn't be put in after he received a formal letter telling him to end it in a year, so he went over all of the details of things that were supposed to be in the story which is what the novel is,and from an interview i just read there were more things he told Narita, that Narita wanted to be in manga form to read from Kubo that aren't in the novel either
                                Tokinada's zan allows him to freely imitate the powers of other zanpakuto, he can use any zan and multiple of them at once
                                Byakuya and Yoruichi have roughly the same reiatsu, as nobles they have high reiatsu although not on the ridiculous levels of Yamamoto
                                Osho knew what the world was like before Hueco Mundo and the world of the living 100 million years prior
                                And the novel confirms something I've always wondered, does reiatsu affect the powers of an individual and it does, an example was if someone used Ryujin Jakka with less Rei then Yama it would not be as hot and if someone stronger then Yama used it the temperature would increase, all abilities buff with stats
                                Last edited by Raiden Blackthorn; January 29th, 2019, 12:32 PM.

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                                  #97
                                  Randomly decided to reread up to the TYBW arc, Rukia is a really underrated character as far as females in shounen manga go. She has the best character arc in the series, she makes Chad, Oriheme and Uryuu seem even more underdeveloped then they already were. She fills the mentor, best friend, damsel in distress and emotional support role by herself while the rest of the main crew does jack shit.

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                                    #98
                                    Rukia was always best girl tbh

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                                      #99
                                      Originally posted by Ladd View Post
                                      Rukia was always best girl tbh
                                      Best character in the series period, comparing her to Oriheme isn't even fair.

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