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    Let's Discuss Climate Change

    Man-made climate change isn't real. If it is, it's minimal. But he's at least bringing the conversation of climate change to the table, and leading the way for preemptive action other than FEMA.

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    Dude stop. The science is almost unanimous. I cant stand it when non scientist tell me shit that completely goes against what scientist are telling me. If 97 percent of doctors told you that you had cancer and told you what to do to treat it and the dire consequences of not immediately tackling it, will you be saying ehh fuck it. Because that's what's going on with climate change. And the time of talking about it and not acting on it is past. I dont need someone to tell me about cancer and expect me to be happy about that. I need someone who's willing to fight the person blocking me from getting the treatment i need. And that person when it comes to combating climate change is big money interest from the fossil fuel companies. Everything in politics is about money. Literally nothing gets done without big money's influence.

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      #3
      Nah dude, YOU stop. Climate change is a natural phenomenon that is happening on other planetary bodies in the solar system. I can point you tons of articles and studies that show this. It doesn't take a scientist to realize that periods of climate change are recorded throughout history when carbon pollution didn't even exist. Carbon pollution isn't making it 80+ degrees here in Florida right now. Stick to politics. Lol

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        #4
        Uh... Humans dump billions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere every single year, that's dozens, if not hundreds of times more than any natural processes that do the same. The planet does warm and cool in cycles, that's very true. But the process typically happens over millions of years, we can see that by looking at geological stratums. But it does not naturally occur over the course of a century like it has been since the industrial age began.

        Scientific fact, dude. Any evidence to the contrary is entirely fabricated.

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          #5
          Except it has. We can observe this by looking at other planets, moons, and even comets in our own solar system who are undergoing similar changes in climate. How in the world could that be fabricated? Lol why was the public misled about scientists actually subscribing to man made climate change? Why is there a large number of scientists who don't believe climate change is man made?

          I mean, there are literally no substantial studies to indicate it is man made. And in fact, the drastic changes over the last two years don't work with that theory very well.

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            #6
            Also, there may be periodic instances of long-term climate change, but it has been found that there have been rapid spikes in climate throughout history as well. Carbon pollution cannot account for this. Something else definitely can, and that's a big ole ball of hydrogen and helium. That's one popular theory anyways.

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              #7
              Here's something recent for ya:

              http://www.express.co.uk/news/clarif...hannel-founder

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                #8
                There's a few things here. Yes, there has been some temperature increase on other bodies in the solar system. No, it isn't caused by the sun. (step back a second, Astronomy is my thing. I'm gonna wow ya )

                There have been a couple reports on other planetary bodies warming, sure. But the big thing climate change deniers tend to leave out is that this is mostly on the outer gas planets. Those planets take decades (or centuries!) to complete a single orbit of of the sun. Much the same that we have seasons that correlate to our orbits, the other planets would as well. We've only been taking temperature data for a few decades, and accurate data is even more recent than that. In exchange, the closest gas giant, Jupiter, takes 30 years to make one orbit. Pluto takes over 200 years. The fact of the matter is that we have not been observing those planers long enough to make an accurate call on whether any warming is or isn't related to the planet's seasons.

                What's more is that Jupiter hasn't even been observed to have any warming. It was calculated to be warming along the equator... But only because of the massive storms combining and giving off loads of kinetic energy. Deniers like to point to Mars, mostly. Because we did recently get some data back to show it was warmer than before. What hurts that argument is that the data was taken 22 years apart from one another. And the former dataset didn't account for dust storms and other factors that could lower temperatures in the area they were observing.

                Neptune's temperature is based on luminosity measurements. And yes, it's getting brighter and hotter. It's also only just now becoming summer. It takes 164 years to complete an orbit. So it's seasons change roughly once every... 40 years? Thus warming and cooling on it takes a very, very long time.

                To top it all off, the ONLY way any cosmic warming could be occurring, would be as a byproduct of our sun heating up. Which simply isn't true. The sun has actually cooled off some in the last few decades and has been less active. Some even suggest we could be entering a Maunder Minimum again, by studying the cycle of the sun over the past few decades. Which would actually result in a decrease in temperatures across the solar system as well as a decrease in Solar activity as a whole.

                With all of that explained... I have no idea where you're getting your data.

                http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

                97% of scientists agree that global warming is attributed to human activity. 97% is a very big number to ignore. That remaining 3% is either on the fence due to lack of their own studies... Or are being paid by big oil to obscure the truth.

                As for there being no substantial studies...? Wat? The NOAA puts out a report EVERY SINGLE YEAR that shows the direct correlation between greenhouse gasses and climate change. The NOAA is the goto source. They have dedicated satellites and observatories that do nothing other than take climate data over the entire surface of the planet.

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                  #9
                  I'm not talking about warming, I'm talking about climate change. Big difference there. And according to people who actually know what they're talking about, we're actually in a cooling phase, not a warming phase. Which obviously would not be caused by CO2. Plantlife has been found to have a much higher level of CO2 absorption than we imagined and the atmosphere is much more tolerant than we imagined. Also, that "97% of climate scientists agree" is malarkey and I'll get a link to show you just why in a few. However on the subject of the planets we have noted monstrous storms on Neptune (or Uranus, I can't remember which) which has always had a blank face. As well as as huge amounts of methane suddenly outgassing on Mars and the appearance of aurorae. Enceladus has also been found to be undergoing some type of climate change with enormous amounts of methane spewing out of it, as well as several comets in our solar system experiencing change right in front of our probes eyes. There is more but I won't rant.

                  However, here's a few more links I'm sure you'll enjoy:

                  http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/31/sc...ming-hysteria/

                  http://www.express.co.uk/news/clarif...hannel-founder

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                    #10
                    And I'm fully aware we're in a low period of solar activity, which makes perfect sense since we've been in a period of cooling. Oh, and yeah, this is what I was talking about.

                    http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...sus-ian-tuttle

                    97% is a bold-faced lie. Lol

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                      #11
                      https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard...ecord-maximum/

                      Here you go, Rich. Try an official source.

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                        #12
                        Rich, ditch the media filters. Provide the papers as-are. We don't need the corporate directives of the media nitpicking things: we're capable of reading studies.

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                          #13
                          Bam.

                          http://isthereglobalcooling.com

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                            #14
                            http://climate.nasa.gov/causes/

                            *whistles*

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                              #15
                              That's a website, not a paper. I said papers, i.e. studies. I can't even find anything to ascertain whether mister Geoffrey Pohanka has sufficient scientific credentials to be a reliable source.

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                                #16
                                Ooooh, here's a good one. No media, just facts.

                                http://www.globalresearch.ca/global-...-is-here/10783

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                                  #17
                                  This one's better though.

                                  http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?id=453

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                                    #18
                                    I agree with Tyreaus, lose the media filters and read the data right from the scientists. The media, being part of the big money issue, will paint a much less harsh picture than hard science.

                                    https://www.skepticalscience.com/glo...lar-system.htm

                                    Other bodies aren't warming in any way that would denote they're undergoing the same climate change as we are on Earth.

                                    We're also not in a "cooling" period here. Like, where do you even get that? The previous 10 hottest years on record, with the exception of one year, have been the past 10 years. Yesterday, for the 2nd time in recorded history, the North Pole peaked above freezing temperatures during the winter. It was 75 degrees here on Christmas day. Lol.

                                    We're most definitely warming, bro. The proof is with the NOAA's climate data.

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                                      #19
                                      It's warmer now than it was during periods with far higher CO2 levels, so what sense does it even make for CO2 to be the cause of climate change? Lol

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                                        #20
                                        And here's a little something for the correlation between weather and the Sun, pretty neat.

                                        http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?id=454

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