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    Originally posted by Cid View Post

    We'll, the 30 years bit is a bit atypical. There were tons of overages and issues during construction. But even if things run smoothly, it could take a decade to build and begin operations because of all the regulations and inspections.
    To be honest the more time goes on the better nuclear power looks in my opinion. We've cut down on the waste produced to a crazy level and it's fairly cheap after the initial cost when you factor in the energy produced. It's a lot more green than people give it credit for and in some places wind, solar, and wave energy are not exactly easy to come by. Places in Arkansas I've been are a good example where the wind fluctuates a lot to not give enough wind power, sunny days are rare, and there's not enough fast moving water with drop-offs to use hydro-electric plants.... So nuclear is the only real option for the time being in such places since we don't have strong enough batteries and lack the means of transporting energy efficiently over large areas.

    Though there's no excuse for coastal areas not using wave energy. It's crazy good.

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      Originally posted by J peth View Post

      To be honest the more time goes on the better nuclear power looks in my opinion. We've cut down on the waste produced to a crazy level and it's fairly cheap after the initial cost when you factor in the energy produced. It's a lot more green than people give it credit for and in some places wind, solar, and wave energy are not exactly easy to come by. Places in Arkansas I've been are a good example where the wind fluctuates a lot to not give enough wind power, sunny days are rare, and there's not enough fast moving water with drop-offs to use hydro-electric plants.... So nuclear is the only real option for the time being in such places since we don't have strong enough batteries and lack the means of transporting energy efficiently over large areas.

      Though there's no excuse for coastal areas not using wave energy. It's crazy good.
      Geothermal is also an option.

      Even in Arkansas, you could probably use some combination of wind, solar, and geothermal and still come out less expensive than the initial cost of building a nuclear plant.

      If we could figure out a way to streamline the costs and the timeframe of building new nuclear plants, I'd be ok with it. But as it stands, you can invest that energy in renewables and come out about the same in every aspect without the accompanying hazards and it won't take 15 years to begin producing energy. So they're better options.

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        Nuclear power has a ton of potential. Right now nuclear power plants use fission which is very dangerous and produces waste, but if the technology is advanced we can potentially use fusion power plants which are not toxic and can produce several more magnitudes of energy.

        I see nuclear power as still being the future of energy, it just seems like the cold war has diminished the interest there was for this once admired energy.

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          Originally posted by #83.6666666667 View Post
          Nuclear power has a ton of potential. Right now nuclear power plants use fission which is very dangerous and produces waste, but if the technology is advanced we can potentially use fusion power plants which are not toxic and can produce several more magnitudes of energy.

          I see nuclear power as still being the future of energy, it just seems like the cold war has diminished the interest there was for this once admired energy.
          Fusion is likely just a pipe dream. I don't believe we will ever be able to achieve it without sinking more energy into it than we get out of it.

          It's like the old joke says. "Fusion is the energy of the future - and always will be."

          Of course, I desperately hope I'm wrong. If humans can solve the energy problem and figure out how to get more energy out of it than we put into it then it would definitely become the holy grail of energy production.

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            Originally posted by Cid View Post

            Fusion is likely just a pipe dream. I don't believe we will ever be able to achieve it without sinking more energy into it than we get out of it.

            It's like the old joke says. "Fusion is the energy of the future - and always will be."

            Of course, I desperately hope I'm wrong. If humans can solve the energy problem and figure out how to get more energy out of it than we put into it then it would definitely become the holy grail of energy production.
            I'm pretty sure that I read and article in 2014 that said scientist had gotten more energy than they put in a fusion reaction. So it is possible, the technology just needs improving.

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              https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...mit-scientists

              Looks like it will a viable source of energy in the next 15-30 years due to recent technology, super conductors.

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                Originally posted by #83.6666666667 View Post

                I'm pretty sure that I read and article in 2014 that said scientist had gotten more energy than they put in a fusion reaction. So it is possible, the technology just needs improving.
                Hmm. So they have. I wonder why we haven't made any advancements since then? Maybe it's because the method they used isn't practical for large scale reactions? It seems like they used lasers to achieve that result, whereas the common attempts use magnets.

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                  Originally posted by Cid View Post

                  Hmm. So they have. I wonder why we haven't made any advancements since then? Maybe it's because the method they used isn't practical for large scale reactions? It seems like they used lasers to achieve that result, whereas the common attempts use magnets.
                  Well it looks like this new technology allows for smaller magnets to be used which have more force. This cuts the power input and creates more output energy. So maybe it wasn't creating enough power to justify spending the time to build it, not too sure though.

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                    Originally posted by Cid View Post

                    Geothermal is also an option.

                    Even in Arkansas, you could probably use some combination of wind, solar, and geothermal and still come out less expensive than the initial cost of building a nuclear plant.

                    If we could figure out a way to streamline the costs and the timeframe of building new nuclear plants, I'd be ok with it. But as it stands, you can invest that energy in renewables and come out about the same in every aspect without the accompanying hazards and it won't take 15 years to begin producing energy. So they're better options.
                    Problem with Geothermal in Arkansas is the entire state is basically on an aquifer... so it's not nearly as effective.

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                      Originally posted by #83.6666666667 View Post

                      Well it looks like this new technology allows for smaller magnets to be used which have more force. This cuts the power input and creates more output energy. So maybe it wasn't creating enough power to justify spending the time to build it, not too sure though.
                      That's probably right. I doubt companies would invest in the technology if they weren't making a huge profit from it.

                      Originally posted by J peth View Post

                      Problem with Geothermal in Arkansas is the entire state is basically on an aquifer... so it's not nearly as effective.
                      Well, they can still use a combination of energy types.

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                        the only reason I came here is to say "you can take my cookies but you can't take my plane traveling bick"
                        decked out

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                          What is up with Fox News constantly making articles about AOC? Seriously in my news feed they always have something writing up about her every damn day. You think if they wanted to really tear her down they stop reporting on her. First term in congress and is not even a senator and yet gets more attention than most career politicians. Wtf... lol

                          Go ahead Fox! Keep mentioning her name so we won't ever forget her when she decides to run for bigger positions.

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                            Ey yo dan dis why u made dis thread boi?

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                              Bill Nye asks AOC a question

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                                Originally posted by Kajin_Style View Post
                                What is up with Fox News constantly making articles about AOC?
                                They need a new whipping girl now that Hillary is irrelevant.

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                                  Originally posted by Post-Crisis Shob View Post

                                  They need a new whipping girl now that Hillary is irrelevant.
                                  She probably likes it rough anyway.

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                                    People are legit dumb enough to think she's a communist.

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                                      Originally posted by Tezcatlipoca View Post
                                      People are legit dumb enough to think she's a communist.

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                                        So whenever there's a porn parody of AOC she definitely needs to be played by Gabriela Lopez

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                                          Originally posted by King John View Post
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