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    #81
    Originally posted by Doctor. View Post

    The existence of an omniscient God doesn't preclude the existence of free will. A God can exist and not act beyond the creation of the universe, which is what deists believe.
    So he exists but doesn't directly act with the world/universe? So.. much like a force of nature.

    Why would anyone bother worshiping him at this point is silly.

    Originally posted by Date Rape Prophet
    I don't believe in infallibility of scripture

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      #82
      Originally posted by OrganizationXV View Post

      That contradicts the ideas of prophecy, though, which Wade is super into. Also, I think there's a Bible verse about how God knows you before you're born, or something to that effect. Couldn't tell you the specifics, but omniscience definitely includes prescience in this case.
      Yup. This nonsense:

      Jeremiah 1:5 -- "I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb. Before you were born I set you apart and appointed you as my prophet to the nations."

      http://biblehub.com/jeremiah/1-5.htm


      Originally posted by Date Rape Prophet
      I don't believe in infallibility of scripture

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        #83
        Originally posted by Kajin_Style View Post

        So he exists but doesn't directly act with the world/universe? So.. much like a force of nature.

        Why would anyone bother worshiping him at this point is silly.
        Deists don't worship him, I don't think. They just see God as an answer to the origin of life. It's more academic and less a political issue.
        Originally posted by Wade
        It isn't date rape if God commands it, and he already commanded it.

        Originally posted by Wade
        I'm saying we actually don't know for certain that 1kg is 1kg.

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          #84
          Originally posted by OrganizationXV View Post

          Deists don't worship him, I don't think. They just see God as an answer to the origin of life. It's more academic and less a political issue.
          More pathetic really. If you want an answer to the origin of life wait for science to figure out.

          Fyi, science is pretty damn close to figuring it out.


          Originally posted by Date Rape Prophet
          I don't believe in infallibility of scripture

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            #85
            Originally posted by Kajin_Style View Post

            More pathetic really. If you want an answer to the origin of life wait for science to figure out.

            Fyi, science is pretty damn close to figuring it out.
            I didn't think you were a legit anti-theist, lol. What's wrong with people developing benign theories When there is no satisfying answer?

            Also, I seriously doubt we're close to finding out how the matter in the universe was created. How would you even test a hypothesis for That?
            Originally posted by Wade
            It isn't date rape if God commands it, and he already commanded it.

            Originally posted by Wade
            I'm saying we actually don't know for certain that 1kg is 1kg.

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              #86
              Originally posted by OrganizationXV View Post
              I didn't think you were a legit anti-theist, lol. What's wrong with people developing benign theories When there is no satisfying answer?

              Also, I seriously doubt we're close to finding out how the matter in the universe was created. How would you even test a hypothesis for That?
              I said origin of life, not matter lol

              Origin of matter is much harder!


              As for origin of life this video is where I'm basing that assumption from.



              Originally posted by Date Rape Prophet
              I don't believe in infallibility of scripture

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                #87
                Originally posted by Kajin_Style View Post

                More pathetic really. If you want an answer to the origin of life wait for science to figure out.

                Fyi, science is pretty damn close to figuring it out.
                >being anti-religion in 2k18

                wow sure is 2011 in here *tips fedora*

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Kajin_Style View Post

                  I said origin of life, not matter lol

                  Origin of matter is much harder!


                  As for origin of life this video is where I'm basing that assumption from.


                  Theories of Gods usually real with the origin of everything, deism included. Howecer, the God that Doc proposed wouldn't preclude any scientific explanation for the origin of life, because the whole idea is that he stepped back and would allow things to take their natural course.
                  Originally posted by Wade
                  It isn't date rape if God commands it, and he already commanded it.

                  Originally posted by Wade
                  I'm saying we actually don't know for certain that 1kg is 1kg.

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                    #89
                    I am not conceding this debate, but I am no longer participating, because the other side is not paying attention anyway, and because they are being perverted instead of being serious.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by OrganizationXV View Post

                      Theories of Gods usually real with the origin of everything, deism included. Howecer, the God that Doc proposed wouldn't preclude any scientific explanation for the origin of life, because the whole idea is that he stepped back and would allow things to take their natural course.
                      The real God obviously does let things take their natural course, but he does in fact perform miracles. I've personally eye-witnessed a miracle of Multiplication before. I've also seen a MIracle of Darkness one time too. It was a warning to me, and a Maglight Flashlight only penetrated a few feet into the darkness.

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                        #91
                        Originally posted by Wade View Post
                        I am not conceding this debate, but I am no longer participating, because the other side is not paying attention anyway, and because they are being perverted instead of being serious.
                        If it's possible that cats rule the world, then cats actually rule the world.

                        Originally posted by #83.6666666667
                        2/3 of the population was Protestants, 1/3 was Catholic ... Therefore, the majority was Protestant and most were Catholic ...

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                          #92
                          Originally posted by Wade View Post
                          I am not conceding this debate, but I am no longer participating, because the other side is not paying attention anyway, and because they are being perverted instead of being serious.
                          So because Shob memed, you're going to ignore the glaring hole in your belief system that renders your God impossible. But you don't lose the argument of course.

                          Give a straight answer that satisfies this problem or never talk about your religion again, because none of your 'miracles' mean anything if your God literally cannot exist.
                          Last edited by OrganizationXV; May 14th, 2018, 11:37 AM.
                          Originally posted by Wade
                          It isn't date rape if God commands it, and he already commanded it.

                          Originally posted by Wade
                          I'm saying we actually don't know for certain that 1kg is 1kg.

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                            #93
                            Originally posted by Wade View Post
                            they are being perverted instead of being serious.
                            Your ability to distinguish between the two is roughly on par with your ability to distinguish between scambots, and hot asian women who want to have sex with you.


                            Originally posted by Wade View Post
                            The real God obviously does let things take their natural course, but he does in fact perform miracles. I've personally eye-witnessed a miracle of Multiplication before. I've also seen a MIracle of Darkness one time too. It was a warning to me, and a Maglight Flashlight only penetrated a few feet into the darkness.

                            ...but you're mentally ill and your perception of the world does not comport with reality, so you are not a credible witness...


                            Originally posted by Wade View Post
                            I am not conceding this debate, but I am no longer participating
                            "I'm not conceding the custody issue, Your Honor, but I am no longer seeking parenting time."

                            "I'm not working, but I am no longer unemployed."

                            "I didn't lose my virginity, but I am no longer not having sex."

                            _________

                            Concession accepted ya knob.

                            Get outta here with that weakshit.


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                              #94
                              Originally posted by Doctor. View Post

                              >being anti-religion in 2k18

                              wow sure is 2011 in here *tips fedora*
                              It get's him upvotes on the Rick and Morty subreddit at least.
                              Originally posted by Kajin_Style
                              Quiet cathartic really.

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                                #95
                                Originally posted by OrganizationXV View Post
                                renders your God impossible
                                lol

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