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  • #81
    Originally posted by #83.6666666667 View Post

    So you don't have actual proof of this great displacement?

    But this is a gray area in history. It's unknown what caused the fall of Rome. Not to mention comparing Rome to the USA is like comparing a horse and a car.
    Just because it may not be their main intention, that does not mean it isn't happening.

    Are you denying that Germanic barbarians were allowed to become numerous and eventually dominate in the society they migrated to? Are you going to start denying historical fact too? Don't be a Kajin, 666. Lol
    Originally posted by #83.6666666667;n448728

    You won this battle but I won the war, Helly.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Helly View Post

      Just because it may not be their main intention, that does not mean it isn't happening.

      Are you denying that Germanic barbarians were allowed to become numerous and eventually dominate in the society they migrated to? Are you going to start denying historical fact too? Don't be a Kajin, 666. Lol
      That's not at all what I asked, lol. Can you keep on point for one point?

      Did I not say the fall of Rome is a gray area? How does that translate to: no "Germanic barbarians were allowed to become numerous and eventually dominate in the society they migrated to" in your head?

      You seem desperate now. You should also stop believing the nut jobs on YouTube that think they know more than they do about say the fall of Rome and how it's an equivalent to the USA. I believe I saw the video you might have in mind. It was very stupid to say the least.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by #83.6666666667 View Post

        That's not at all what I asked, lol. Can you keep on point for one point?

        Did I not say the fall of Rome is a gray area? How does that translate to: no "Germanic barbarians were allowed to become numerous and eventually dominate in the society they migrated to" in your head?

        You seem desperate now. You should also stop believing the nut jobs on YouTube that think they know more than they do about say the fall of Rome and how it's an equivalent to the USA. I believe I saw the video you might have in mind. It was very stupid to say the least.
        Are the migrant crisis and the rapid demographic changes in the US west coast not ample evidence? Do you think Londoners aren't fleeing London, or the Germans aren't fleeing the no-go zones? You think France is erecting a bullet-proof glass wall around their most famous landmark just 'cause?

        666. Anser the question. Were they or were they not allowed to become numerous, and did they or did they not overthrow the Romans?
        Last edited by Helly; September 13th, 2017, 11:04 PM.
        Originally posted by #83.6666666667;n448728

        You won this battle but I won the war, Helly.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Helly View Post

          Are the migrant crisis and the rapid demographic changes in the US west coast not ample evidence? Do you think Londoners aren't fleeing London, or the Germans aren't fleeing the no-go zones?

          666. Anser the question. Were they or were they not allowed to become numerous, and did they or did they not overthrow the Romans?
          Ehhh.....nooooooooooooooo. That's not evidence much less ample, hahaha.

          Why would you care about my opinion over actual historians?

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          • #85
            The fall of Rome is not only very contested, but also attributed to many causes.

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall...n_Roman_Empire

            Saying or implying that barbarians in the inside were responsible for the collapse of Rome is wrong and very selective viewpoint.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by #83.6666666667 View Post

              Ehhh.....nooooooooooooooo. That's not evidence much less ample, hahaha.

              Why would you care about my opinion over actual historians?
              Then you're simply living in a fantasy world. Even those on the "alt-left" and their academica see the future of white minority countries(and revel in it of course).

              The historians agree. The Wiki article you linked is talking about the various sources for the Empire's dererioration, but the Germanic tribes were the ones who would ultimately overthrow them and take their territories. "Germanic" in this context does not stricly relate to the Germans, by the way.
              Originally posted by #83.6666666667;n448728

              You won this battle but I won the war, Helly.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Helly View Post

                Then you're simply living in a fantasy world. Even those on the "alt-left" and their academica see the future of white minority countries(and revel in it of course).

                The historians agree. The Wiki article you linked is talking about the various sources for the Empire's dererioration, but the Germanic tribes were the ones who would ultimately overthrow them and take their territories. "Germanic" in this context does not stricly relate to the Germans, by the way.
                If you're going to claim the elite are causing a displacement of white, then you'll need more than "imo".

                "The reasons for the collapse are major subjects of the historiography of the ancient world and they inform much modern discourse on state failure.[1][2]".
                This doesn't mean there is a consensus on the history.

                Where talking about what caused the fall of Rome not who ultimately took the land. Yet, again, you try to change the discussion to suit you.

                When did I state otherwise?

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by #83.6666666667 View Post

                  If you're going to claim the elite are causing a displacement of white, then you'll need more than "imo".

                  "The reasons for the collapse are major subjects of the historiography of the ancient world and they inform much modern discourse on state failure.[1][2]".
                  This doesn't mean there is a consensus on the history.

                  Where talking about what caused the fall of Rome not who ultimately took the land. Yet, again, you try to change the discussion to suit you.

                  When did I state otherwise?
                  It's not just "imo". It's "everyone who has seen all the relevant data's mo's".

                  Both are actually pretty relevant to my various points on other subjects. The deterioration of Rome is actually quite similar to the state of western civilization today. The reason I'm fixated on the takeover in particular is because it's the most relevant to this specific discussion about displacement and splintering societies we're seeing right now, and I made sure to specify the subject of "what removed them from their zenith atop the world".

                  I thought I would just clear up the terminology a bit since I wasn't sure if you were being confused by it.

                  Also, forgot to point this out in my original statement: Shaun berated the idea of a gradual displacement with the idea of "hover-mosques", but note that the fall of Rome was something that was building up for hundreds of years. Hundreds. Where would Shaun and his vacuous approach of "I find it dumb to project current trends so many years into the future" have gotten the Romans?
                  Originally posted by #83.6666666667;n448728

                  You won this battle but I won the war, Helly.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Helly View Post

                    Then you're simply living in a fantasy world. Even those on the "alt-left" and their academica see the future of white minority countries(and revel in it of course).

                    The historians agree. The Wiki article you linked is talking about the various sources for the Empire's dererioration, but the Germanic tribes were the ones who would ultimately overthrow them and take their territories. "Germanic" in this context does not stricly relate to the Germans, by the way.
                    Dude there's no such thing as an alt-left. The alt-right gave that name to themselves, you cant just rebrand a group an undefined to try and create an equivelency with a specific organization.
                    .
                    as for white's being 'displaced' if white people actually care aboht being a majority they should reproduce faster.or they can just keep doing what theyre doing and live life without freaking out about identity politics.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by -Person- View Post

                      Dude there's no such thing as an alt-left. The alt-right gave that name to themselves, you cant just rebrand a group an undefined to try and create an equivelency with a specific organization.
                      .
                      as for white's being 'displaced' if white people actually care aboht being a majority they should reproduce faster.or they can just keep doing what theyre doing and live life without freaking out about identity politics.
                      Helly wants to preserve all the white families who go to the beach with their kids in underwear instead of real swim wear lol

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                      • #91
                        Originally posted by Helly View Post

                        It's not just "imo". It's "everyone who has seen all the relevant data's mo's".

                        Both are actually pretty relevant to my various points on other subjects. The deterioration of Rome is actually quite similar to the state of western civilization today. The reason I'm fixated on the takeover in particular is because it's the most relevant to this specific discussion about displacement and splintering societies we're seeing right now, and I made sure to specify the subject of "what removed them from their zenith atop the world".

                        I thought I would just clear up the terminology a bit since I wasn't sure if you were being confused by it.

                        Also, forgot to point this out in my original statement: Shaun berated the idea of a gradual displacement with the idea of "hover-mosques", but note that the fall of Rome was something that was building up for hundreds of years. Hundreds. Where would Shaun and his vacuous approach of "I find it dumb to project current trends so many years into the future" have gotten the Romans?
                        You live in a bubble, you're a bubble boy. How about you join the real world and stop trying to change the world behind your computer? No credible person believes what you say because it's a conspiracy theory.

                        The Roman Empire didn't have instant messaging, fast transportation, propaganda, a overwhelming homogenous society, etc.

                        The USA isn't expanding, doesn't have a majority foreign population, isn't constantly attacked, is stable, is economically strong, has no rivals, etc.

                        The USA is nothing like Rome in the superficial, much less then internal.

                        What terminology have you used much more explained?

                        The Romans are current day "western civilization" so it doesn't matter. And again, Rome didn't fall just because of one thing. You're distorting things so you can prove a long erroneous idea you have had in your head for a long time.

                        Stop worrying about countries you don't even live in. It's sad seeing you try to act like you belong here.

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                        • #92
                          If diversity is white genocide, I'm the god-damn Einsatzgruppen.

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                          • #93
                            Originally posted by #83.6666666667 View Post

                            The USA isn't expanding, doesn't have a majority foreign population, isn't constantly attacked,is stable, is economically strong, has no rivals, etc.
                            lol

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                            • #94
                              Originally posted by Post-Crisis Shob View Post

                              lol
                              talk about delusion
                              Originally posted by #83.6666666667 ;n457904
                              Most of the German population is Catholic, but the majority is Protestants.

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                              • #95
                                Originally posted by Post-Crisis Shob View Post

                                lol
                                1. This is in the context of comparing Rome just before it fell to the USA.
                                2. The USA is stable. A bunch of idiots using larping weapons to fight and only one person using a car to run down a mob of people isn't nearly enough to say the USA is in chaos. The rule of law is followed by the average citizen. The USA has the largest economy in the world at the moment. China is the only one that comes close but no one can invade the USA and live to tell about it. The USA has the most powerful army the world has ever seen.
                                3. Lol, at you.

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                                • #96
                                  Originally posted by #83.6666666667 View Post
                                  1. This is in the context of comparing Rome just before it fell to the USA.
                                  2. The USA is stable. A bunch of idiots using larping weapons to fight and only one person using a car to run down a mob of people isn't nearly enough to say the USA is in chaos. The rule of law is followed by the average citizen. The USA has the largest economy in the world at the moment. China is the only one that comes close but no one can invade the USA and live to tell about it. The USA has the most powerful army the world has ever seen.
                                  3. Lol, at you.
                                  I wouldn't really call the US "stable" at the moment. There's a lot of polarization here in the US, and I think the Trump election really helped to expose that.

                                  Then again, I suppose we've actually had worse situations than now in the past...

                                  (Looks at some of workers unions oriented stuff that happened before the 1900s and into it).

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                                  • #97
                                    Originally posted by RussianCoffeeAddict View Post

                                    I wouldn't really call the US "stable" at the moment. There's a lot of polarization here in the US, and I think the Trump election really helped to expose that.

                                    Then again, I suppose we've actually had worse situations than now in the past...

                                    (Looks at some of workers unions oriented stuff that happened before the 1900s and into it).
                                    It's very stable compared to other countries or Rome.

                                    Yeah those unions got the Socialist beat out if them. RIP wage slave eradication dream.

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                                    • #98
                                      Originally posted by Helly View Post

                                      I sympathize with them because I have my own country and my own people, and I would hate to lose them. It has the opposite to do with my supposed identity crisis that you accuse me of, though it's becoming increasingly apparent to me that you might be one to be struggling with such a crisis, especially considering that you told me you've never even been to Costa Rica before.

                                      You accuse me of trying to take what is widely classified as black culture away from you, you have become so disconnected from reality that you believe the label isn't even valid. Or maybe you're just in denial. I'm just trying to mitigate the amount of Kaijins that are produced in this world. Lol
                                      White knighting a little hard for the White Nationalists aren't ya? Don't know Mexico is dealing with large volumes of immigrants taking their jobs and homes. Seriously, you are ~trying~ to empathize with White Nationalists but if one of them was here they smack you upside your head for being an idiot and an outsider.

                                      First of all, my parents aren't from Costa Rica, try again. Secondly, my parents moved at an early age from Puerto Rico to the US mainland and I was born in a major US city. Third, in 1917 the Jones-Shaforth Act was passed effectively making all PR residents US citizens at that time. My grand mother was born around that time so if you consider her parents I would at the very least be 4th generation US citizen. So I am hell of a lot more American than you will ever be.

                                      You seriously do have an identity issue with how hard you try to defend and support the conservative groups. Why don't you stick to your country's policies and politics, hm?



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                                      • #99
                                        Originally posted by #83.6666666667 View Post

                                        You live in a bubble, you're a bubble boy. How about you join the real world and stop trying to change the world behind your computer? No credible person believes what you say because it's a conspiracy theory.

                                        The Roman Empire didn't have instant messaging, fast transportation, propaganda, a overwhelming homogenous society, etc.

                                        The USA isn't expanding, doesn't have a majority foreign population, isn't constantly attacked, is stable, is economically strong, has no rivals, etc.

                                        The USA is nothing like Rome in the superficial, much less then internal.

                                        What terminology have you used much more explained?

                                        The Romans are current day "western civilization" so it doesn't matter. And again, Rome didn't fall just because of one thing. You're distorting things so you can prove a long erroneous idea you have had in your head for a long time.

                                        Stop worrying about countries you don't even live in. It's sad seeing you try to act like you belong here.
                                        You're the one living in a fantasy land here....Various leftist sources are saying this is inevitable:

                                        http://vancouversun.com/news/local-n...wo-decades/amp

                                        https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/209950...re-segregated/

                                        https://amp.theguardian.com/uk/2000/sep/03/race.world


                                        I found the Guardian article the most amusing. It's from the year 2000 and turned out to be completely wrong about its wishy-washy predictions on how diversity would affect social attitudes.


                                        As for your contentions on Rome, I'll simply point you in the direction of Goetz's book When The Empire Strikes Out. In it he uses much of the data compiled by John Glubb which analyzes the major empires of the past 4,000 years. Here's a decent enough summary if you just want the cliff notes:

                                        https://amos2008.wordpress.com/2008/...n-and-society/

                                        I personally would not describe the culprit as "feminism", though. I would describe it as "hyper-liberalism", feminism is just one of its (major) symptoms.
                                        Originally posted by #83.6666666667;n448728

                                        You won this battle but I won the war, Helly.

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                                        • Originally posted by Kajin_Style View Post

                                          White knighting a little hard for the White Nationalists aren't ya? Don't know Mexico is dealing with large volumes of immigrants taking their jobs and homes. Seriously, you are ~trying~ to empathize with White Nationalists but if one of them was here they smack you upside your head for being an idiot and an outsider.

                                          First of all, my parents aren't from Costa Rica, try again. Secondly, my parents moved at an early age from Puerto Rico to the US mainland and I was born in a major US city. Third, in 1917 the Jones-Shaforth Act was passed effectively making all PR residents US citizens at that time. My grand mother was born around that time so if you consider her parents I would at the very least be 4th generation US citizen. So I am hell of a lot more American than you will ever be.

                                          You seriously do have an identity issue with how hard you try to defend and support the conservative groups. Why don't you stick to your country's policies and politics, hm?


                                          I don't have to experience their exact circumstances to empathize with them. Lol. I shouldn't even have to explain that. Moreover I actually have talked to a number of white nationalists, it's how I started down the rabbithole. Ethnonationalists ally themselves with each other quite often regardless of which group they're advocating for, or even just groups that seek to empower their own people in a similar fashion. In fact, the alt-right and Hotep(a group advocating for the independence of blacks from the welfare state) are quite close with each other even after the Charlottesville incident. Me personally, I am not an ethnonationalist. I think a nation's cultural and ethnic identity can be preserved if we just maintain foreign citizenship at a fair minimum, although that may change as I examine ethnostates like Israel and Japan more closely.

                                          Okay, so Puerto Rico, my bad then. I get both of them mixed up quite often. I mean, yea, it has citizenship, but not much else. Puerto Rico is a US territory, its inhabitants don't partake in the presidential election process. Moreover, it does have its own separate cultural identity(just look at its racial demographics) and that's what I was pointing out, that you are either unfamiliar with it or disown it for some odd reason. Which is what led you to go on this vacuous sermon about "american culture, not black" the last time we talked.

                                          Really, I do encourage you to go and visit Puerto Rico some day, dude. I grew up in the States, I had many friends from many different backgrounds and the first friend I made was this black kid named Rodney whom I will never forget. I moved first from the state I was in most of my life(Georgia) to Texas and then to Mexico, and let me tell you...from one spic to another, let me tell you....being around your own people, hearing your own language, seeing your heritage in the architecture and environment itself, that's a whole world different of an experience. I had never known that sensation before tasting it in Texas, and hey I didn't know very many people there and it wasn't as polished and clean as the Georgia suburbs I had come from, but it felt much closer to home in a different way.

                                          I told my mom a few years back as well, back when I was still planning on fleeing my country and never looking back, I told her that I didn't want to move back to Georgia anymore, that I enjoyed my time in Texas and wanted more of that. Really, if it weren't for the chokehold that the cartels have on my country, this would have been a fine enough place already.

                                          Kajin, maybe at this point you'll simply just try to write me off as being a closet racist all my life, and if that's the case then we can go into what you believe to be racism because the cold hard truth is that people are simply wired to be with their in-groups, and that in fact this coding is least pronounced in whites. Maybe all this does is convince you of your preconcieved notions about me and my life and my experiences, but how can you know for sure when you have not gone back to your roots? How can you deny all the academia that actually supports my experience, that having historic museums and other similar cultural items actually benefit the health and well-being of societies?

                                          Go and visit Puerto Rico some day, my guy. Really.
                                          Originally posted by #83.6666666667;n448728

                                          You won this battle but I won the war, Helly.

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